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mass executions like today's. leaders in washington from both parties and groups like the nra all say that now is not the time to talk about how gun safety laws can save lives in america. i agree. now is not the time to talk about gun laws. the time for that conversation was long before all those kids in connecticut died today." carolyn mccarthy's mention of the national rifle association, the nra is what everybody is talking about when they talk about the need for leadership regardless of the political consequences on this issue. when the president today said we are going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics, he was talking there about the power of the nra as a lobby. and it is true that they have so dominated their field of policy that instead of having the gun laws most americans would like to have, it sometimes seems like instead we as a nation just have the gun policies that the members of the nra would want. that is the impression that we all have. but that is not at all true either. we do not have th
to keep the pressure on because the other side doesn't stop. the nra and its nuts who oppose -- look of course we are all for the second amendment. we have gone way beyond the second amendment. this is ridiculous. i used to hunt with my uncle, with my dad. i have a 20-gauge double-gauge shotgun or whatever it was when i was probably 13, the biggest thing in my love. i loved it loved my gun. but the idea of these semi oughtics, people need this, this is ridiculous. it's not like automatic rifles it's wrong and we haven't talked about it enough. we have to talk about it enough. here are some of the numbers that i saw again over the weekend. since 1982, 61 mass murders in this country with firearms. 61. eleven of them in schools. nineteen in the workplace. 3 one in military basis. on black friday, this year 154,000 guns were sold. 2 million guns sold in the month of month of november alone. there are 400 gun shops within the four counties of connecticut where newtown is located. and there are more gun sellers in this country today than there are mcdonald's.
today's. leaders in washington from both parties and groups like the nra all say now is not the time to auction about how gun safety laws save lives in america, i agree, now is not the time to talk good gun laws the, the time was long before all those kids in connecticut died today. carolyn mccarthy's mention of the nra is what everyone is talking about when people talk about the need for leadership regardless of the political consequences on this issue. when the president said we have to come together to take meaningful action regardsless of the politics, he was talking about the nra as a lobby. and it's true, they have so dominated their field of policy, instead of having the gun laws that most americans would like to have. it seems like instead we have the gun policies that the members of the nra want, that's the impression that we have, but it's not at all true either. why do not have the gun policies in this nation that members of the nra want for this nation. look at the polling from july of this year. this is nra members. 74% of nra members believe that everyone who wants to b
in joe and the other top aides in white house and said, we have to act within ten days before the nra gets organized. and they failed to do it. they tried and they failed. and lbj had a bill that had been bottled up in committee for months and months for, you know, licensing and registration and they signed something much, much less in october and he spoke out, president johnson did, in october of 1968, forcefully and angrily about the failure even after robert kennedy's death to do something to defeat the gun lobby. while i have the spirit of the season and a feeling that things have changed and saw joe's powerful -- joe, your powerful statement in the aftermath, in the immediate aftermath of the killings, i have my doubts as to whether this president and this congress have the guts and the strength and the political courage to go forward. >> they have to move quickly, don't they, john heilemann? >> yeah, i think they do. you can't lose them. the sense of moral urgency that comes with proximity to this thing. and right now the nra is on its heels defenders of our insanely permissive
association finally breaks its silence. the nra promising to take part in a gun control debate it has scheduled a friday announcement. more on that in a minute. first to the white house and cnn's dan lothian. >> reporter: white house aides say this will be a chance for the president to talk more about the process of setting up this effort which, as you pointed out, will be led by vice president biden. i'm hearing also as part of that effort will involve homeland security, the education department, health and human services and also the justice department will be looking at ways that they can come up with policies to address this issue of gun violence. again, this is the president reacting to some pressure as to what he would do. you know, right after this violent event took place, the president came out and said that he would take action. that his administration in the coming weeks and months would be looking at ways to prevent something like this from happening again. so this is the first visible action that this administration has taken to -- is taking, rather, to meet that demand.
, december 19th. christmas is almost here. >> very respectful dialogue. the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful. >> also in washington, washington anchor for "bbc world news america" katty kay. >> no pieces, sorry. >> you'll write one next time. thank you. so we've got a lot to get to this morning. >> a lot to talk about today. >> those exceptions, what are you talking about? >> just in the conversation about everything you thought there were two exceptions. >> rick perry, governor of texas, and -- >> is it bob -- >> they said we need to -- we need to arm teachers. >> we have to think about it. >> somebody in the school with a gun. >> guns in school. that's great. you know wha
support is out there. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks. you know, that consensus is out there. we just have to make that felt in the halls of congress. >> but the important political consensus is of the organization the nra that can mobilize numbers of voters who will vote on that issue only. and the nra leadership has been the enablers of the mass murderers. and they've got to be called on it. they've got to be called on it by the president and the leaders of congress to confront the nra leadership, as bob said. nra members, they're okay with reasonable gun controls. the nra leadership has been fanatic and frankly functions as enablers to mass murder, and they've got to be stopped on that. >> and we just accept at face value some of the rhetoric that -- lindsey graham was on tv the other night saying, you know, in response to talking about sensible gun laws that no, i believe in the second amendment, i like to hunt. you know, that is not contrary to the sensible gun laws that anybody is advocating. you know, when you talk about something like criminal background
a conservative republican who received the nra's highest ratings over four terms in congress. i saw this debate over guns as a powerful symbolic struggle between individual rights and government control. and you know what? in the years after waco and ruby ridge, the symbolism of that debate seemed even more powerful to me. but the symbols of that ideological struggle, they've been shattered by the harvest's own from violent, mind-numbing video games and gruesome hollywood movies that dangerously desensitize those who struggle with mental health challenges. and then add in military-styled weapons and high-capacity magazines to that equation, and tragedy can never be too far behind. you know, there's no easy ideological way forward. if it were only that simple as to blame hollywood or the nra or insufficient funding for mental health, then our task would be completed in no time. but i come to you this morning with a heavy heart and no easy answers. still, i've spent the past few days grasping for solutions and struggling for answers. while daring to question my own long-held belief on these subje
after robert kennedy was killed and said, we have ten days before the nra gets mobilized. we have ten days to accomplish the bill was sitting in the judiciary committee, the gun bans, from the time when john f. kennedy was killed. and now martin luther king jr. had been killed, robert kennedy was killed. he said, you've got ten days to mobilize. you've got to get this done. they did what they could and they came up with a much smaller bill which was signed regretfully by lbj in october. >> i don't have the historical perspective that andrea does, but i have covered all the -- >> you didn't cover that '68 bill? >> no, i missed it. but i have covered the four instances of mass gun violence under obama, and i have to say the scariest thing to me with respect to newtown was when i g-chatted my fellow editor in new york to plot out coverage, and we knew exactly what to do because we had done it three times before. it had gotten so routine and so disturbing to us and i'm worried i'll be writing the same story. >> we can't desensitize ourselves to this, though. >> listen, we're not going to.
, and allow people to have them with extended clips is laughable. i expect members of the nra are going to continue to expel this mischaracterization of what these weapons are for. host: frank is from oklahoma. we want to show the front page of "usa today" this morning. caller: i do not think the laws need to be changed. i have a 380 that i carry as a concealed weapon. it is about the same size as a 9 millimeter. host: so it is a handgun. caller: i carry it as a concealed weapon and i am licensed to do that. i have a home defense weapon that i use, a model 191145 caliber semi-automatic. host: do you carry that into a weapon with you at all times? why? caller: yes. physicallyow and limited as far as my own self defense is concerned. there is a lot of crime in our neighborhood. the helicopter's flight over here all the time chasing criminals. i would like to mention something about the sandy hook incident. i found it ironic that these people were meeting in the school for all this prayer. when prayer's outlawed in school. also, they had the high priest of abortion there giving his appeal
today, we will have live coverage here on the cspan accords. while we wait for the nra to get under way, we spoke earlier with a republican member of congress to get his thoughts on last night's action and the house on fiscal cliff legislation. > >> what happened inside the caucus last night at 7:30. >> it was about the short as one i have ever seen. john boehner said he did not have the vote and we passed the bill, two bills that harry reid has been sitting on and the senate. he said he is available to negotiate. mr. kantor said we would be called back within 48 hours notice and see you after christmas. that's all it was. host: are they negotiate from a position of strength? guest: the speaker has been negotiating as much as he can -- i think the president has not been dealing in good and faith and not negotiating at all. he gave us a plan that was his budget that was voted on in the senate, 99-0 against his budget and in the house, he gets zero votes for it also. that is what the president put on the table. i don't think he has been negotiating in good faith. we need to find solutions
is this report about what is ahead in terms of the gun control fight. we heard from the nra friday. let me read you a few sentences -- that was nearly 20 years ago in 1993. we will hear from that testimony in a couple of minutes. we want to get your calls and what is ahead in gun-control. roy is joining us from north carolina, the independent line, good morning. caller: it could be a bitter fight but i think some drastic action needs to be taken. it should be at least as burdensome for the gun owner as it is for a car owner. registration, insurance, testing, everything -- handguns are a big problem, too. i think it is so bad that the president should do some kind of executive order and put a moratorium on military rifles, at least, because around here in western north carolina, there are gun shops and people waiting for four hours to get to this ar-15. they say they will not take it out of the box, the majority of them. they will either have it as an investment or have it grandfathered in. this is like undetectable poison. 300 million guns that have proliferated the whole country. we have plent
first baptist church in pensacola, florida, that are lifetime members of the nra, who went out hunting across northwest florida and alabama and georgia and mississippi, from the time they were 9, 10. jon meacham, you were raised in a similar culture. although you were wearing white gloves during your formative years. i'm sorry. i was struck that the most passionate people that said what you always want to hear, thank you for saying what i wanted to say. thank you for putting into words. they were -- they were, my friends from first baptist church, they were hunters, they were people that said, i'm not going to have somebody -- i'm not going to have extremists take my right to keep and bear a arms, protect my family, and go hunting with my kids. >> i think that's the key word. gun owners who think this through realize that the second amendment culture has bone totally captured by extremists since before really, but i think the marker is when, in 1994, i think, the phrase, jack booted thugs, remember, was used about the atf and people like george h.w. bush and norman schwartzcof resigned
. he worked for the brady campaign. we called the nra hoping to get someone from that organization on tonight they said they're not commenting until more information is thoroughly known in this case. they're putting off any kind of comment. it's obvious. congresswoman, thank you four coming on. i any this must bring it all back. i thought it was great, i said we have to get carolyn mccarthy because her reason to be in public life, to take on the voter, to deal with the public was this issue of the horror that hit your husband. >> and it was. and, you know, it's not funny, but i mean yesterday in my office we sat down to plan what we were going to do for the next term, and i said, listen, i came here in to congress to reduce gun violence, and i said i want to make sure that we go full forward. we have to do something about it. you know, the president's words meant a lot to me today because his tone was different. we have to take this head on and i know that the white house had said earlier that this was not a time to talk about gun violence, and you know what? they're right. it shou
a correction to make, earlier in the show when i said if you ask nra members that they believe if people have to pass a background check in this country before buying a firearm, i said 57% of members said yes to it. it is actually 74% of members who want a background check that want -- 74, not 57, sorry about that, we switched up our slides on that. here on nbc, our continuing coverage of the mass shooting, this massacre at sandy hook elementary school will continue now into the night. live from newtown, with chris jansing, please stay with us. >> reporter: 28 people dead in the nation's latest shooting massacre, but this time, the horror is at an elementary school. this is msnbc's live coverage of the shooting in newtown, connecticut. the first call for help came just after 9:30. >> the school shooting at an elementary school in fairfield county, connecticut. >> reporter: it is a small town, holiday lights are up everywhere. >> a young man wearing black. >> he entered the school, he was wearing all black. >> armed with at least two weapons, carrying two handguns and hundreds of rounds of amm
correct and partially wrong. it looks like the nra's proposal is a lot like exactly what happened after 9/11. immediately though grabbed any federal agent they could to throw them on the planes and later on they put together a really poorly implemented program to arm pilots. and not very many volunteered for the program. i can see the reality. look. he is right in some regard. if someone shows up at a school and there is an armed principal and armed guard clearly that is not going to happen it's unseasonable for starters. it is impractical. let alone the safety implications that come out of all of this. did it work in the skies though? >> well, could argue that it is working because there hasn't been an incident but it looks like every time an american aircraft that gets hijacked there hasn't been any air marshals or both planes that have in iad's on board most of them didn't have armed marshals on them and i don't think there were any armed pilots on them either. so, the air marshall program alone is a billion-dollar program. and the armed pilots program is a lot of the pilots believe it
today at the nra. >> if the nra is serious about gun violence in this country, if they care about gun violence in this country, everyone walking around here, to worried about their nra scored. they scored soto my air's nomination. they scored whether the attorney general was held in contempt. i have two words for the nra. score this. >> reporter: unlike the gun control law and gun lobby and specifically the nra have remained silent since new town but sources close to the industry tell fox news that is soon going to change. that the nra will soon start pushing back. sources to close to the industry tell fox news they will note just for starters that columbine happened in 1999, smack in the middle of the ten year period when this country had an assault weapons ban. jon? jon: james rosen in washington. thank you, james. jenna: new information now from overseas where tensions are rising in the middle east. iran's army chief of staff is warning we're all heading towards a world war. this is all in reaction to nato's recently announced deployment of patriot missiles along turkey's border. t
contributions to the debate about gun control. in the first statement from the nra since the connecticut school shooting the nra says and i'm quoting in part the national rifle association of america is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters and we are shocked, saddened, and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in newtown. the nra says it will not comment on the newtown school shooting. immediately they did not out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency. the nra says it wants to be part of the national dialogue to make sure the tragedy like that doesn't happen again. make sure you stay right here with us on ktvu for more coverage about the connecticut school shooting. coming up we'll take you back live to newtown, connecticut. we'll hear what it has been like for the students there who went back to school and what is complicating the investigation to figure out why the gunman did what he did. >> i can't imagine heading back to school. >>> time now 5:39. sal is covering traffic. where you starting? >> we are starting this morning
want this. the other thing that is i think, important, is that people talk about the power of the nra. but when you look at the election results that happened this november, the nra had a terrible season. i mean, my home state of virginia they really spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to knock off tim kaine, who is a big supporter of gun laws. they were not able to do that. they went after tammy baldwin, and of course they went after the president. everybody believes we should have reasonable gun laws. what is standing in the way is the nra leadership. we need to push them aside. it is not difficult. the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i h
days after the nra's comments on the deadly sandy hook shooting sparked controversy, the debate over gun control in this country is in high gear. yesterday a small but vocal group of people demonstrated outside a gun shop in falls church. the group called for a ban on assault style weapons and ammunition and more funding for mental health programs. the nra's push to put armed guards in schools across the country has people talking. >> i don't understand why they are here. they are exercising their first amendment rights and we're here exercising our second amendment rights. >> this doesn't define us as a society. how many people should carry guns? it's the character. the character. the caliber of our character rather than the caliber of our weapon. it's just not right. >> police were present at the protest although it remained a peaceful one. >>> seven minutes after 6:00. the remarks by mitt romney's son that are raising eyebrows weeks after the presidential election. >>> also ahead, why the end of an era for a popular landmark along the potomac river. >>> >>> it is finally here. chr
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children being killed. >> we have to make that coalition. we have polled gun owners and nra members and found broad support on things like background checks on all gun sales. the american people who are watching and believe that we deserve better than this and deserve a nation that is better and safer, join us at we are better than this.org. you have to keep talking and engage in the process otherwise, we will have the same conversation the next time a mass shooting happens. we can no longer keep repeating it over and over and the same c conversations, because we have to move forward with that and we have to do it together. >> collin, you were shot in 2007, and the tact that we are here in 2012, does it feel like we have failed you? your fellow survivors and those who did not survive that massacre? >> that is a tough question. i feel good about what i am doing today and the the people i am connecting with with, and the progress in capitol hill and ledgislatures across the kun tc. it has been an overwhelming experience, but it is one that is very rewarding. we are trying to take the
the country from sandy hook and shaking up national debate on gun control that was intractable until now. nra is breaking its silence. 4 days after the connecticut school shooting. in a statement the group says the members were quote shocked, sad and heart broken by the news. the group also pledged to quote help make sure this never happens again. more coming apparently from the nra. >>> plus body blow to the maker of the rifle used in the massacre. as today one power ful hedge fund in california with ties to newtown said it's time for action. all this as president obama signals how far he will go to reign in assault weapons. 2020 anchor chris cuomo begins our coverag coverage. >> each body buried calls for change. white house voicing support for new gun law and renewal of the assault weapon ban. weapons that fire bullet in rapid succession with each pull of the trigger. the business community also proving to be potential catalyst. investment manager announcing the sale of the stake in the biggest maker of assault rifle rifles. what prompted the move may instructive. union represen
television right now, they don't want to come on. they're hiding away, as are members of the nra and all the usual suspects when these terrible things happen. are you detecting, senator, that there is change in mood? are you hoping this is a tipping point? >> yes, i hope so, piers. i had to do a brief segment on "meet the press" yesterday morning. and afterwards, i probably got 20 phone calls at home here in washington. very unusual, people from washington and california calling and saying we want to help with this. it's got to stop. i even had one man who was a member of the nra who said i have an ar-15, and i'm going to get rid of it. i'm a hunter, and i want you to do something about these assault weapons. so i'm going to do my level best to try. i did it once before in 1993. we sat down and we wrote a bill, and that bill passed the senate. chuck schumer introduced it in the house. it passed. it was not amended. it was passed. and it went to the president. president clinton signed it, and it was the law for ten years. and over time, it began to wind down the supply of these weapons. a
association chimed in to say, "the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again." >> reporter: white house spokesman jay carney says the president is actively supporting a bill to reinstate the assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. >> have there been visitors pouring into town in the aftermath of this that has gained so many attention? >> reporter: there are a lot of visitors interest neighboring towns here in connecticut. they have all been stopping by the several makeshift memorials that have been erected in the middle of town. they are dropping off cards and notes, balloons, even teddy bears, or just stopping to reflect and remember the slain people. >> marlie hall live in newtown, thank you. >>> 'tis the season to give and the glide foundation along with gap, inc., is doing just that. this is a live look right now at a grocery bag giveaway about to kick off in san francisco. you can see lots of people braving the cold out there to stand in line. they are already lining up at glide this is on alice street. this is why. about 5500 free bags
and dangerous abusers can get guns. 70% of n.r.a. members support closing this gaping hole. military style assault weapons and high capacity magazine are readily available to civilians. we need a sustained, thoughtful national conversation about solutions to our gun violence epidemic. a conversation that's respectful of the second amendment, another thing i'd like to repete, but cognizant of the risks guns pose for families and neighborhoods like in the cases you've heard about today. none of these policies has anything to do with second amendment rights. this is the conversation the american public wants to have. the american people are coming together on this issue from blue states and red states, republicans and democrats, those who own guns, like some of the people behind me, and those who do not. cities, suburbs, small towns. we are speaking out. based on one simple idea expressed by president obama in his powerful remarks on sunday night. we are better than this. all of us here today are here to make our voices heard, the voices of those impacted by gun violence, the voices of everyo
that. >> how do you actually deal with that powerful lobby, the nra, the nra now saying that they are not yet in the debate. they'll comment with had they get all the information from this latest massacre. but we've already had some indications, congressman manchin who says, look, perhaps i will go ahead and suggest to my nra friends that they need to engage and need to take a different approach. is this the moment that that is even possible? >> i hope so because what i hope that we will do is now we'll start looking at facts rather than, you know, emotions. the time for emotions remains with regard to this horrific tragedy, but let's translate into action. and the action depends on facts. why do we have 15 times as much gun homicide as the rest of the world? what can we do about it? what can we learn from other countries that have dealt with some of these issues? why do countries like japan have these extraordinarily low rates of gun home skpooicide and gun ? if we can come up with something sensible -- and frankly, if has to be more far reaching. even the legislation p
on assault weapons. is the nra statement something new? does it represent a change? do we know? >> we can't know. it's intentionally vague. they have a press conference scheduled for friday. they want to make contributions to make sure it doesn't happen again. but you cannot under estimate the intensity of the passion of gun ownership in this country. and in is the nra's constituency. >> we will see what they say friday. thank you, chris. >>> and friday has been set aside as a day of mourning across connecticut. today, the children from newtown schools showed how resilient they are, the single act getting on the school bus. smiling from the windows and reaching out for a hug from a policeman. and dan harris was there. >> reporter: they were greeted at the door with hugs from teachers. the buses bore ribbons in green and white, the colors of sandy hook elementary. there was serious security. police checking every car. but even this officer was giving out hugs. are there any concerns about safety? >> no, they're in a safe place there. >> as you can imagine, it was pretty difficult. what els
square, wall street, and broadway theaters. >>> the nra says it's willing to offer meaningful contributions to ensure shootings like those in newtown never happen again. the gun rights group said it had been silent until now out of respect for the families. a major investment firm announced it's selling the biggest maker of the assault rifle. people see it as a step toward making assault rifles tabu. >> at the end of the day it's not necessarily the dollar that counts but the sense. the sense of the types of weapons we're selling to the general public. >> we'll hear more details about the nra's position at a news conference on friday. >> considering the mood of the nation, you have to wonder -- they have to pick their words very carefully during that news conference. they said nothing up to this point. even their facebook page had been taken down. so it's going to be interesting to see what those folks have to say at the end of the week. >>> also, in newtown, friends and family are preparing to say goodbye to first grade teacher vicki soto, one of those hero teachers. her fune
also a more on that in washington. how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy that if some horrible monster tries to do something they will be there. >> lapeer says the nra is working with former republican congressman and former deputy director asa hutchinson to develop a more security program that would include how it's paid for. >> jamie: certainly in the senate the democrats are in control. they have the white house too with president obama. how are they reacting to this? >> on the capitol hill the reaction has been less than enthusiastic especially from democrats. here is more. >> well, i think is he so extreme and so tone deaf that he actuall
on the nra. >> reporter: at nra headquarters in virginia on monday, an angry crowd. >> all: shame, shame, shame. >> reporter: hordes of activists protesting the gun lobby. and the debate ignited again. but those in support of the nra questioned whether the assault rifle used in the newtown massacre was really the issue. conservative columnist john fund called in yesterday. >> the bottom line is, the laws don't work. these mass killings are because of psychotic or mentally ill individuals. >> reporter: but some political leaders are fed up with the nation's gun violence. 34 americans are killed every day by firearms. >> this is just ridiculous. this is an outrage. we are killing each other. and we're the only industrialized country in the world doing it. >> reporter: the nation has fought this battle before. in 1994, congress passed an assault weapons ban, after a surge in gun violence across the nation. the law banned 18 types of rifles. but after ten years, it expired, as the gun lobby's power had grown. according to a university of pennsylvania study, the number of mass shootings did d
. >> virginia democratic senator mark warner has an a-rating from the n.r.a. and made year today he disagrees with their idea and thinks that multiple steps must be taken to avoid mass murder. >> if my memory is correct, there actually was an armed individual at columbine years ago and didn't prevent that tragedy. so i think we need a comprehensive approach, i think it looks at mental health. i think it looks the at protecting our schools and i also think it looks at these high volume magazines, you know, and can fire off so many rounds. >> the n.r.a. ceo said this morning, banning those high capacity magazines won't make any difference when it comes to making people safer, harris. >> harris: peter, thank you. now to the tragedy in newtown, connecticut, and the community mourning the deaths of 20 children and six adults murdered at sandy hook elementary school. today at religious services church leaders received sustaining ovations from parishioners helping cope with the grief. monsignor robert weiss who leads the parish in newtown says, quote, this has been the worst week of my life, but he
if there were not a gun involved. yesterday the head of the nra came out ripping -- >> less than 24 hours later. >> bill: ripping into bob costas. here's wayne. >> just disgusted. i mean they tune in to watch a sporting event and meanwhile what they get in regard to this cold-blooded murder that took place is they get a national sportscaster whining about his social agenda that he wants adopted to ban firearms and ban handguns. i mean the american public, it is shameful. they're disgusted by it. >> by the way shout out to the nra for putting a guy named lapierrre in charge of their organization. that's great. >> they know how to do it. >> did he succeed the last guy mr. fancy pants? >> bill: lapierrre says there is an answer here. this wouldn't have happened if only -- right dan do we have -- >> he doesn't say anything -- he wouldn't have said a thing last night if this woman had saved her life by having a firearm available. >> how about the baby? >> bill: why didn't the 2-month-old baby have a gun? >> you can have
weapons off the street. so here's the thing. i have had 11 straight victories and the nra has always gone against us big-time come every time. big-time come every time. we have managed most effectively in most ways. i think that it can be overrated. and i think the biggest nightmare that the people wake up and now understand that no one that i know of in the united states senate believe that people shouldn't have the right to a firearm. no one. we don't believe that sportsmen should have the right to go hunt. the nra has fooled people into thinking that the people who don't support the freedom to have, if i could say, an ak-47 -- they are trying to paint people like me to want to take away everyone's rightful ability to carry a weapon. so i think their biggest nightmare is the truth coming out. i think this is bringing the truth to light. i don't personally worry about them. i hope, and in this job, when something is critical and controversial, and some people may not love it and, you know, can i do this? will i ruffle some feathers that i put my job in jeopardy? because maybe i was once
at some of these pro gun rights folks, nra, facebook, crickets have deactivated their facebook site, no tweets. not a lot from them the last couple of days. and we learned according to forbes, we'll have this conversation up next, the bushmaster rifle, a military-style rifle that the shooter used on friday, teachers may have been indirectly giving to this company that makes this rifle. that's next. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. >>> we are tracking the growing debate over possible new gun control laws. some
by the n.r.a. if you think about one town in marlboro, new jersey has adopted now what appears to be a program, they've certainly moved quickly on this, going to permit an armed cop in each of the nine schools starting on january 2nd. >> kelly: they actually launched this prior to the n.r.a., something they were putting in place on the heels of what took place at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. they wanted to do something, the mayor of that town said we will spare no expense, we must take care of our children and why they're putting armed guards in all of their schools, getting back to what the n.r.a. said, the n.r.a. wayne laperriere said the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a began and began a lot of talk and controversy out there, and how we should be responding. >> alisyn: it's part of the national dialog, whether that is the best deterrent or other ways to handle it. the mayor marlboro is a town i knew where, monmouth counties where i grew up. it's one of the pretty s and you can't believe there'd be an armed guard, bu
at the hospital for test results >> heather: head of the nra on protecting our children in the aftermath of the newtown tragedy. repeating the call for armed and security personnel to be posted at every school in the country. peter doocy has more from washington. >> putting police and armed security in schools is the one thing that will keep people safe according to national rifle association ceo wayne la pierre who argued that you can't legislate morality because legislation only works on the sane and doesn't stop criminals. former republican congressman is leading the effort to convince congress that it's a good idea and said this morning it would be similar to the way that government protects air travelers from terrorists. >> there was intense debate on airplanes, guns have no place. yet we have a federal air marshal program i helped to oversee which provided a deterrent, increased the safety of the airlines and it's not like an armed camp when you go on the airlines. >> reporter: mark warner has an "a" rating but made it clear he disagrees with the idea and he thinks multiple steps m
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